PMR on the DL

[HAZARD]

Well, as you may recall, I started having gun issues going into the final battle back in May. What I thought was just an issue with the broken battery lead has turned out to be a larger issue. I replaced the main wiring harness, powered up and the gun, and it worked fine. Then all of a sudden the gun stops shooting. The power is still on, the lights blink when I pull the trigger as if it knows it is shooting, but the solenoid does not activate. Sometimes it works, sometime it doesn’t. I guess I need a new solenoid, but not sure how much money I should put into this gun.  Decisions, decisions.....

Anyway, I hope my 93' Autococker is up to the task this weekend. No laughs....it ought to be interesting.....weighs as much as 15 bricks, no two finger trigger, all stock…..

[Roland]

I'd bring the PMR with you on Saturday and see if the proshop has any ideas.  I assume you've over-ridden the eyes to dry fire it but it still won't work.  I could be wrong but it seems odd that the solenoid would die suddenly.  Have you had any problems with it before?  I suspect there's a wiring issue somewhere.  Anything pinched or shorting out somewhere?

[Enemy]

Did you try putting in a fresh battery?  If the battery is running low, the solenoid might not be getting enough juice to operate properly.  This would also explain why it sometimes works and sometimes doesn't.  If you leave the gun alone for a few seconds or so, the battery might gain enough of a charge to operate but would quickly run out of juice when you fired off a few shots.   

Solenoid could have crapped out, but generally that only happens if you over-pressurize it.  Not to mention, if the solenoid was damaged, it probably would just not operate.  It wouldn't work one minute then stop the next. 

[HAZARD]

Well the fact that my Autococker has a low pressure regulator and putting high pressure air onto the gun without thinking made for quite the air leak....I was forced to get another look at the Proto. You guys are correct in the fact that I don’t think the solenoid is the issue. It's the board itself. After an hour of investigating, trying random stuff, I came to this.....

The board in its normal position in the gun will cause the gun to work fine one minute, and not (but fully powered and thinking its shooting) the next. When I put a little "flex" on the board it makes this ever so slight, I don’t want to say cracking, but it makes a clicking sound and then the gun works with no issues. All solder joints and other electrical components all seem tight. It is a very strange click sound and I really don’t think it is a crack in the board!?!

Anyhow, I am solving this issue for now buy wrapping a couple rounds of electrical tape around the 9V which puts enough pressure on the board to "flex" it to the point that it works. Just trying to nurse this gun through the rest of the season and hope it will hold up.

Thanks......

[Enemy]

Strange...

That almost sounds like a manufacturing defect.  I wonder if Dye would cover it assuming your warranty hasn't expired yet.

[HAZARD]

Warranty Im sure is not an option...Private sale of marker, I believe the marker is from 2007. I can find stock boards on ebay often enough for dirt cheap as people upgrade their boards. I'll get something soon enough...

[HAZARD]

Alright...it finally arrived! Got my 2010 PMR, Dye Rotor, and Crossfire 68/4500 tank yesterday. $405 + $15 shipping. All bought brand new this spring by PO. A risky proposition as it was on ebay, but the kid was a young Marine and was selling off a bunch of his stuff. Gun is in mint condition with not one mark on it and operates perfectly. The thumb knob on the feed clamp is the exception. He must have used pliers to tighten as it is all marked up. Bottle does not have a scratch on it and came with a Proto cover. Hydro Good till 12/2014. Dye Rotor has just a few very minor surface scratches that can probably be wipped/buffed away.

PMR: Havent used it yet other than dry firing. All features are the same as my old but comes with the UL frame, 2-piece barrel, on/off ASA, and the solenoid is supposedly better using less air. The bolt is the same as what I had already. The thumb knob for the feed clamp absoultuely sucks. I can understand why he used pliers on it. You just cant get enough leverage to really tighten it by hand as the Rotor makes it a tight area to try and reach. I will have to use needle nose pliers myself to really tighten it. Getting a quick clamping feed neck with be the first upgrade. Overall the thing looks sweet. Looks like a rail, but those to me have always looked like the later DM guns from Dye. I think they are a great gun even at the $449.00 new price with the Dye/Proto quality behind it.

Dye Rotor: Only have ball drop tested it. Already in love with this hopper. The field strip of this unit is awesome. On/off button very solid and easy to uses. No other gimick settings to it that you don't need. Spring loaded flap on inside lifts as balls deminish making them fall towards feeded. Easy slide lever to clear ball jambs. The features of this hopper are great and I cant wait to use it. Honeslty, Im more excited about this than the gun.

Cross Fire Tank: I don't know, a tank is a tank to me.

 

[BlacknRed]

Someone toss Matt some tissues.  Me thinks he is getting a little too excited.   

[Enemy]

Good to hear Matt (minus the feedneck issues).  PMRs are solid performers, especially for the cash.  Dye actually took the bolt technology in the PMR and used it in their $1,600 NT. 

The rotor is pretty awesome as well.  I've only used mine once, but it does pretty bad ass.  The quick topless disassemble alone is worth the cash.  Last practice was actually one of the few times that I cleaned all of my gear right when I got home from practice.  That's probably due to the fact that I didn't have to deal with the frustration of cleaning my Halo. 

As for the Crossfire, I wouldn't say a tank is a tank.  Crossfire are highly regarded has having solid consistent regulators.  Is it the old style or the new style with the short reg?  I'm assuming its the old longer style.

[Roland]

I swapped out my feedneck to a DM7 clamping style immediately.  The thumb screw is a poor design.

As Enemy said, Crossfire is a highly regarded tank.  I have two and have been very happy with them.

I guess I'm going to have to get a Rotor for next season.

[HAZARD]

Is it the old style or the new style with the short reg?  I'm assuming its the old longer style.

There is nothing noticibly short about it, so I would say it is an older one. It's the same size as my DXS tank which is 4 years old. Whats up with the shorter one's? Are they supposed to be better, or just shorter & lighter?

Yeah, I know Crossfire is a pretty good tank. I just had nothing to say about it really. It's a nice tank. It had just enough air in it when it arrived for 20 shots on the marker. I really didnt need it and will be fine to have a spare. May consider selling it to off set some cost. We'll see....

Roland, I need to air up my tanks Saturday anyhow so I can shoot this gun....so I will be visiting you all for a short period.

[Enemy]

Is it the old style or the new style with the short reg?  I'm assuming its the old longer style.

There is nothing noticibly short about it, so I would say it is an older one. It's the same size as my DXS tank which is 4 years old. Whats up with the shorter one's? Are they supposed to be better, or just shorter & lighter?

Yeah, I know Crossfire is a pretty good tank. I just had nothing to say about it really. It's a nice tank. It had just enough air in it when it arrived for 20 shots on the marker. I really didnt need it and will be fine to have a spare. May consider selling it to off set some cost. We'll see....

Roland, I need to air up my tanks Saturday anyhow so I can shoot this gun....so I will be visiting you all for a short period.

Shorter regs is just the fad that is going on now.  The lighter weight is a plus, but several tanks are just way to small though.  Kids think that is "Agg" to have an ultra tight setup but the tanks are getting so small that some players hit their masks with the back of there gun.   

[Stoli]

Congrats on the new gear Hazard!   

I found that in order to use the new cheapo GA tank that I got that has a super short reg I had to switch to a different ASA on the Pimp - it just wouldn't screw on all the way because the gauge was getting in the way.